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By Joe Brockmeier
September 17, 2025

In October, consumer versions of Windows 10 will stop receiving security updates. Many users who would ordinarily move to the next version are blocked by Windows 11's hardware requirements unless they are willing to buy a newer PC. The "End of 10" campaign is an effort to convince those users to switch to Linux rather than sticking with an end-of-life operating system or buying a new Windows system. At Akademy 2025, Dr. Joseph De Veaugh-Geiss, Bettina Louis, Carolina Silva Rodé, and Nicole Teale discussed their work on the campaign, its progress so far, and what's next.

End of 10

The End of 10 project was dreamed up at the South Tyrol Free Software Conference (SFSCON) and launched on May 28. According to the announcement, the end of Windows 10 security updates will "turn an estimated 200 to 400 million laptops and computers worldwide into security risks and heavily polluting e-waste" simply because those systems don't meet Microsoft's requirement for a Trusted Platform Module (TPM) 2.0. Linux, of course, will run quite happily on hardware that Microsoft has deemed obsolete.

I did not have the opportunity to attend Akademy this year, but its talks were live-streamed to YouTube, and the unedited streams for all talks are available now. The End of 10 session begins at 4:13 in the room-one video. Slides are also available.

Teale introduced herself as a member of the KDE Eco team working on its Opt Green campaign, which seeks to reduce energy demands of software and extend hardware life. Louis said that she is a retired engineer and teacher based in Berlin; before joining the End of 10 project in January 2025, she "hardly knew anything about Linux and had never heard of KDE before". Her activities with the campaign are focused on bringing Linux to "open-minded elderly people in Berlin", beginning with her neighbors. Silva Rodé said that she was also "pretty new at everything"; she met De Veaugh-Geiss at a conference last year and talked to him about the End of 10 campaign, leading to her involvement.

De Veaugh-Geiss is a project and community manager for KDE e.V., working on KDE Eco. He said that the group wanted to do the update jointly because the campaign is conceptualized as a collaborative effort—thus it made sense to have the people on stage who are doing the work. There are, he noted, many others who were not on stage, and the group could only provide a general overview of the campaign. "It's really just the tip of the iceberg".

End of 10 was born out of the Opt Green campaign, he said, which is funded by Germany's Federal Environment Agency and the Federal Ministry for the Environment, Nature Conservation, Nuclear Safety and Consumer Protection.

Support for Windows 10 ends on October 14, which coincides with the International E-Waste Day (there really is a "day" for everything...) and KDE's 29th birthday. "So it seemed things are coming together, and we should do something with this". He held a BoF at SFSCON in November of last year that brought a handful of people with ideas; that led to another BoF at the Chaos Communication Congress (CCC) in December, where people started volunteering to do work on End of 10.

Silva Rodé said that she was at CCC as part of a school event and wound up volunteering to help with translating materials into Spanish, which led to doing outreach in Latin America. "This was very exciting to me to see Latin America heavily represented".

What worked

The main goal, De Veaugh-Geiss said, was to connect new users with in-person support. He addressed the audience, "who here has helped someone install Linux that has never used it before, and then who has had to help them again afterward?" The idea was to recreate the support network at scale so that people know that they can go somewhere and get someone to help them out.

The first step was to promote existing local networks, such as Linux user groups. The second step was to do outreach to FOSS users and the media to "give the campaign some weight" so that people begin to pay attention to it. The third step was to build up new support networks. All of that, he said, had been a great success. There are more than 300 places that offer recurring support for new users, and more than 225 events have been listed on the End of 10 web site, in 40-plus countries. The web site has a current map of all of the repair cafes, independent shops, organizations, groups, and collectives that are providing support, as well as a list of upcoming events.

Some of the areas, he said, have much better representation than others. He invited people in underrepresented areas to consider getting involved to establish support networks in those areas as well.

One of the things that worked well, according to Silva Rodé, was to have concrete tasks for volunteers to take on. There were many people who really wanted to help but did not know where to begin or what to do.

De Veaugh-Geiss said that one of the ideas behind the campaign was to make it distribution-neutral and to "try to speak as a big FOSS family". The project was "at least getting there", with a number of different organizations, distributions, and companies supporting the campaign that are listed on the End of 10 web site. This includes not just the usual suspects from the free-software world but also repair collectives that have been focused on more general hardware repair. He said that the campaign was illustrating the importance of software for repairing hardware:

This is something that I think is quite abstract for many people. But when you start to realize, oh, my hardware won't work because the software has stopped being supported. I can go to a repair cafe. That becomes not abstract and very concrete.

Louis said that she lives in a "quite big cooperative apartment complex" that is home to about 1,000 people. She decided to start there, and her first presentation drew about 30 people. After that, interest in installing and using Linux took off; she began having regular office hours and organized an installation event with one-to-one support for users. "And we helped with doing backups first!"

The effort also included demo computers on hand so that users could try Linux beforehand. "If they only use the browser, afterward they say that it looks just like Windows". Overall, she said it was successful because people kept coming back for continuous support. "As we have all heard, the experience is not done just with going to an install party", people need assurance there is someone who can help them afterward too.

Opt Green

Teale said that part of the Opt Green campaign is to make people aware that they have options other than Windows or Apple. Part of that campaign has been to put ads into magazines, such as Öko-Test, a German consumer-protection publication, and Linux Magazine.

The idea was to take a distributed approach so that supporting organizations would do their own campaigns within the context of End of 10, De Veaugh-Geiss said. He noted that Zorin OS and KDE were running their own campaigns, as well as the repair initiative Runder Tisch Reparatur. "This gave us a much wider reach than we would have been able to do if we had done it on our own."

Normal people, Louis said, don't read Linux Magazine. She then backtracked a bit about suggesting that Linux users were not normal people, with a laugh, "you know what I mean". It is important, she continued, to reach out to more mainstream publications like Tom's Hardware, PC World, and non-technical publications like The Irish Times. She said that she learned about organic coverage of the campaign in broadcast media when a friend contacted her to ask if there would be more installation events. "I changed my mind after listening to the radio broadcast", her friend said.

Challenges

There was some skepticism when reaching out to existing repair cafes, De Veaugh-Geiss said. One organization in Germany said it did not see what software had to do with repair cafes and did not think that its communities would be interested in installing Linux. To persuade the organization, he proposed doing a presentation to the community, and about 180 people from different repair cafes showed up. After a presentation about e-waste and the energy consumption involved in producing new devices, many of those who attended were interested in follow-ups.

Louis said that the people she spoke to who run repair cafes had many reasons not to offer Linux support. "When somebody comes with a broken toaster to the repair cafe, afterward it's fixed and they can just use it". Linux, of course, is a totally different story. The repair cafes did not want to deal with "all these people coming to them and having to explain how to use this and how to do that". The cafes just want to repair things, and that's quite understandable.

The FOSS way of doing things is "new and foreign", De Veaugh-Geiss said, to many of the people who are excited about the environmental aspects of installing Linux. There are also challenges with building new teams and communities. There are many places that do not have the maker spaces and Linux user groups one might find in a large city like Berlin; there are a lot of gaps in the map, he said.

Teale added that keeping people hooked was also a big challenge. It's a lot of work to keep people updated and interested after the excitement of a first event. Silva Rodé added that the same is true for volunteers: "it's not a very instant gratification kind of thing. Some people join the Matrix channel, and they expect revolution the next day". When that doesn't happen, she said, they are disappointed, and then they leave. Everything is slow, and people's expectations have to be managed.

De Veaugh-Geiss said that now that the campaign had "hit the ground running", the second phase could be to try to take the enthusiasm and get people involved with the developer community. One way to do that might be to write up guides to help people learn to write bug reports. Another idea, he said, would be to do a follow-up "i-Waste" campaign for Intel-based Macs that are losing macOS support but are still good hardware.

Q&A

The first question was about the barriers people faced when moving from Windows to Linux; specifically, what were people complaining about or missing?

Louis said that she had received a lot of positive feedback on how fast Linux is, and how easy it was to use. De Veaugh-Geiss answered that there is a real vendor lock-in issue, where people need—or think they need—specific software on Linux. "If it doesn't run on Linux, it just creates a barrier that feels insurmountable".

Another attendee wanted to know if the group was keeping a database of feedback from repair cafes and others who were getting input from people. De Veaugh-Geiss said that the campaign had done a survey of about 50 repair cafes recently, asking about general obstacles and if they had seen an increase in visitors. But, at the moment, the campaign is not keeping a database of feedback or anything of that sort.

One person said that they were quite amazed by the number of events and such, but "at the same time, it still seems small compared to the vast internet". They wanted to know what the organizers thought about the scale, or if they were happy with what they had achieved.

Louis referred back to slide six in the presentation, which showed an iceberg with several penguins on top: "this is only what we see and what people have told us". She suggested that there was much more activity than what the campaign knew about directly and noted that there are people using the End of 10 hashtag ("#Endof10") on the Fediverse that are not involved with the campaign at all. "It is pretty cool to see that it's becoming its own thing and has legs beyond ours".

As always, there are some questions during the Q&A that are not actually questions; one audience member interjected that is it possible to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware, but "there's no guarantee you'll get updates".

Someone else wondered if the campaign is reaching highly technical people or "sort of more normal people". Louis said that tech-savvy people tend to just watch some videos and do it by themselves; they are not the people that the campaign is reaching out to. Instead, the campaign is trying to reach the people who want personal support for the installation and afterward as well.

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FSF "Upgrade from Windows" campaign

Posted Sep 17, 2025 14:04 UTC (Wed) by joib (subscriber, #8541) [Link]

The FSF runs an ongoing campaign

http://upgradefromwindows.com/

Given the continued dominance of Windows on PC desktops, I suppose that campaign has yet to catch on. One of these days maybe..

Hope this campaign meets better success!

Flipping the table

Posted Sep 17, 2025 15:46 UTC (Wed) by nickodell (subscriber, #125165) [Link] (2 responses)

This is a really smart idea. I think Linux has a reputation as being very complicated, and not compatible with many kinds of hardware. This is a chance to flip that, by providing a more compatible alternative, and hold out a hand to the many users whose needs are being ignored by Microsoft. I think Microsoft has not done a very good job in convincing ordinary users of the benefits of a TPM, which seems like a strange marketing choice.

Benefits of a TPM

Posted Sep 17, 2025 16:15 UTC (Wed) by smurf (subscriber, #17840) [Link] (1 responses)

That's probably because, for ordinary users, there aren't any.

Anything an end user might conceivably use a TPM for is covered by redirecting verification either to their smartphone, to some app that tries to ensure (more or less stringently) that the device is not rooted, or to an external security stick on USB.

Both of these require physical interaction with the device (fingerprint on the phone, a physical button on the stick) which a TPM cannot afford.

Benefits of a TPM

Posted Sep 17, 2025 22:21 UTC (Wed) by NYKevin (subscriber, #129325) [Link]

The TPM does offer one marginal benefit: If your computer is new enough, it is probably already there, thus making it more convenient than either of the alternatives you describe (especially considering that smartphone passkeys require a Bluetooth connection to the PC to verify local presence, and that's extra faff in its own right, even assuming that Bluetooth is also built in). For older devices, this is obviously a bad argument, hence why Microsoft is struggling to convince consumers who own said devices to upgrade.

> Both of these require physical interaction with the device (fingerprint on the phone, a physical button on the stick) which a TPM cannot afford.

The button on the USB security key is not a real security boundary, it is merely proof of presence. It exists to slow down lateral movement through a large (usually corporate) network, under the assumption that we've already been breached and the attacker would prefer to target devices that have a security key plugged in, but nobody sitting at them right now. It would be possible for the OS to require a SAK (i.e. "press Ctrl+Alt+Del to use your passkey for [domain]") as an effective substitute for a physical button, but I have never seen such a thing in practice. Consumer (home) networks are not large or trusted enough for this to be worth the bother of doing.

On the other hand, if you want to require secondary authentication (analogous to the phone's fingerprint reader), which really is a security boundary, the OS can request a PIN, and Windows does that in practice. This works both ways: Your phone will accept a PIN or pattern in lieu of a fingerprint, and Windows will accept a USB fingerprint reader in lieu of a PIN (if you've configured a fingerprint login, of course).

ChromeOS Flex

Posted Sep 17, 2025 20:55 UTC (Wed) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link] (2 responses)

> "If they only use the browser, afterward they say that it looks just like Windows".

Speaking of which: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromeOS_Flex

For sure it's not FSF-compliant but if the main goal really is to avoid [e-]waste then that should be one of the options. I'm surprised it was not mentioned one way or the other.

I think "too much choice" and fragmentation in general has been one of the reasons the "Year of the Linux Desktop" never came. Which Linux? For good or bad, ChromeOS removes a lot of "choice" and complexity. It's designed to work like a smartphone which is great for people who want to forget about their computer and don't care that much about their Freedom.

You could argue that no caring about your Freedom means falling into the same vendor lock-in trap again. But it's not the same: you can use a Chromebook without using Google services much. Every service is different but it's generally much easier to switch from one cloud service to another than replacing some Win32-only application or asking MS to support PCs without a TPM2

There are hundreds of guides like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=degoogle+android

ChromeOS Flex

Posted Sep 25, 2025 6:34 UTC (Thu) by rhn (guest, #102779) [Link] (1 responses)

> you can use a Chromebook without using Google services much

This suggests you had a different experience from mine. My Chromebook is still waiting for its turn to get de-googled it after I tried to set it up and discovered that there's no leaving the setup screen without a Google account.

ChromeOS Flex

Posted Sep 25, 2025 15:03 UTC (Thu) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

You need a Google account and you must use... Chrome. That's not for everyone but that's what millions of Windows 10 users have already been doing for years.

It all depends what the objectives are.

Steam metrics

Posted Sep 17, 2025 21:09 UTC (Wed) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

> One person said that they were quite amazed by the number of events and such, but "at the same time, it still seems small compared to the vast internet".

This is a limited yet very interesting and IMHO impressive metric: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/steam-tracker/

It's limited to gaming on Steam which means... the number of regular Linux users is most likely much _higher_!

On other other hand, it's not just a "sample" and very accurate.

Don't forget to remove the SteamOS fraction depending on what you are interested in.

Riot Games DRM blocks Windows->Linux migration

Posted Sep 18, 2025 2:18 UTC (Thu) by jokeyrhyme (subscriber, #136576) [Link]

i was soooooo close to bringing my spouse into the Linux flock, as they almost entirely depend upon browser-based applications anyway

however, the deal breaker was League of Legends :S

Is it a security risk?

Posted Sep 18, 2025 8:41 UTC (Thu) by NAR (subscriber, #1313) [Link] (1 responses)

"turn an estimated 200 to 400 million laptops and computers worldwide into security risks"

I might be mistaken, but my experience is that nowadays criminals usually send some message to the victim to "click on the link, log into your netbank, etc." and of course the link points to a fake bank site. Using "secure" Linux does not protect against this threat...

I mean it's generally a good advice to have the latest patches, but it's not like these Windows PCs are directly connected to the Internet with a public IP address, so worms can freely connect them. I'd guess most of them are behind a NAT which gives some protection against some threats.

Is it a security risk?

Posted Sep 21, 2025 7:28 UTC (Sun) by gf2p8affineqb (subscriber, #124723) [Link]

But they are running arbitrary code from websites in browsers that sometimes have bugs. And people download and run programs. You don't want either of those able to get kernel permissions.

Local repair shop in the list!

Posted Sep 18, 2025 12:31 UTC (Thu) by rhbvkleef (subscriber, #154505) [Link]

Really cool to see the vast amount of places already joining this effort, and also super cool to see the repair shop on my uni is also joined in the effort. I am missing some press helps like posters and such on their websites. I'd love to go staple some posters on the uni.

Regret rates?

Posted Sep 20, 2025 23:36 UTC (Sat) by gioele (subscriber, #61675) [Link]

I like the idea of converting "normal people" (cit.) from Windows to Linux, but in my experience these conversions need a lot of 1-to-1 hand-holding, especially at the beginning (as it is normal with every change in life). I wonder if the proponents have the capacity to support this after the initial phase.

Another thing: in my experience, after a brief honeymoon period people start missing certain features of Windows (in particular apps related to their hobbies) or drivers for some hardware gadget. At that point the jump back to Windows (or Mac OS). My experience with this kind of conversions ends in ~2005. Perhaps nowadays "normal people" only need a basic OS with automatic updates and a browser...

Is anybody running studies that keep track of how users' sentiment towards Linux changes over time? What percentage of people end up going back to Windows after a while? How does that curve look like? Geometric with a plateau? Linear? Wavy?


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